Camper Van Life: Expert Tips, Community & Benefits for Veterans with Eric Raszewski

Eric Raszewski, founder of Family Trucksters, shares his passion for camper van travel and his expertise in helping others navigate the world of mobile travel. He discusses the importance of research and finding the right fit when choosing a camper van, as well as the challenges and rewards of camper van travel. Eric also highlights the role of kindness and connection in the camper van community, where people often come together to help each other in times of need. He emphasizes the benefits of slowing down, getting outside, and experiencing a different way of travel. Eric also discusses his work with veterans and the potential for camper van travel to provide a much-needed transition period after leaving the military.

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It takes a brave and independent mindset to go tiny. If you are trying to figure out your tiny pivot, this podcast is here to inspire and connect you with the other unconventional, gritty, inspirational people within this community. I am Laura Lynch, your tiny house friend and host. On this show, we are always going to come back to money because as a financial planner, this is the question I hear the most. How do I make this work for me financially? Well, that's my jam, so jump in, let's go. New episodes drop every Thursday. Hello, YouTube friends. I have a confession. So I was working on an audio only project on my recording software and I forgot to turn video recording back on. This is affecting two episodes of Les Housemore Moolah podcast. One is episode 53 with Mick Talks Tiny and the others is episode 54 with Eric Radzewski with Family Trucksters. So I'm so sorry for this mistake, but. To make it up to you, I decided we would do a YouTube exclusive. So the three of us, Eric and Mick and I are gonna all get together and talk about entrepreneurship as we are all building businesses in the tiny living world. And so I want to explore the ideas around risks and our favorite platforms and what's motivating us. And I thought this might be useful for those. who are interested in some sort of side hustle or entrepreneurship. So again, so sorry for forgetting to turn the video recording on for these two episodes, but I hope you enjoy the YouTube exclusive, which will be coming out soon. So Eric Razewski, welcome to Les House Mormola podcast. I'm super excited to have you. You and I connected through LinkedIn, which is one of my favorite platforms. So thanks for joining me today. Please introduce yourself and family trucksters. Yeah, hi. First off, thank you for having me. This is really fun. So my name is Eric Razewski. I've been... I would say camper van enthusiast now for about four years. And then I was lucky enough to work in the industry for a couple of years. after leaving the industry, I still have a really big passion for kind of sharing what I've learned about travel, especially with families. and what I call it, what I consider mobile travel. So small dwellings that you can take on the road, you can go different places. So I started family trucksters as a, I call it a consultancy. Basically, it's a resource to help people that are looking to change their lifestyle or hit the road or just experience van life for a short time, anything and everything. Awesome. Yeah, it's so funny because since you and I connected, I've had several occasions to talk specifically about what you do because there is a lot of you know, sort of evaluation and decision making that has to happen in order to find the right fit if it's a new thing for you. So none of us sort of launch into, you know, a major lifestyle change without doing some research and figuring out what's the best fit. Cause there's a lot of options out there when it comes to getting hitting the road. Yeah, absolutely. There's. a myriad of different options and I would still say at this point still pretty limited information as far as a succinct way to learn everything that you need. I think everybody or each band builder, each RV builder, they have their own information but nobody's really compiled it into one place yet. Awesome. Well, please talk about your origin story of Family Trucksters, your first trip west and your first rig. How did that happen and how did it go? Yep. So I was trying to talk my wife for a while into doing one of these camper van trips. I think like most people, you see it on Instagram and you kind of get this bug and you say, that's going to be it. That's the trip we want. Maybe you don't think it through completely, which was our first trip. So our first trip is when my daughter was two and we took a 76 Westie on a trip through the West. So we went down to New Mexico to visit family. We drove through Arizona. We came back through California on the way back, a little bit of Nevada. And what we didn't know at the time is that a 76 Westie is air -cooled. There's no air conditioning. It is very, very slow. So I think our top speed was about 55 miles an hour. And on that trip, very quickly we learned, okay, we're in this for the long haul. It was a 17 day trip total. So we kind of had to figure things out. But even through kind of the trials and tribulations of it, we realized this is very different way to travel. It really helped us to slow down. It helped us to kind of just take in everything. You have those long stretches, you know, driving. driving through the West at 55 miles an hour where you have nothing but slowing down. So I think it changed the way that we kind of looked at travel. And then when we got back, we said, okay, this was really fun. This was awesome, but maybe we'll upgrade slightly. So that's when we went out and we found a 1995 Euro van, which we call Yeti. And that was kind of our first foray into owning a camper van. And then we started to rent it. Now we have two camper vans. One of them goes out on a rental today and that kind of started this whole process for me. Awesome. So that first rig that you, was that a rental or did you have a, was it a friend or who had that? Yeah, that was a rental. So we, I think like a lot of people just said, okay, we want to do this now. How? And I had heard a little bit about rental companies, but I wasn't a hundred percent sure. the process that they went through. So, like most people, I just Googled, it came up. We, like a lot of people just picked the one that was cute and nostalgic. And we didn't really think about the kind of the hard things that you need in the band to make a trip more comfortable. We just said, yeah, let's just pick that one. So again, it was a great trip. It was a lot of fun, but we learned a lot. A lot on that trip, there was actually one time we were in the mountains of Arizona and this was when the fires were happening. So there's a fire behind us, we're in the mountains, we can see all the smoke and then we lose a gear. There's a little piece on the shifter that broke. So we call down the hill and there's this 17 year old who has never worked on a Westie in his entire life. We call down and say, hey, we're in need of some help. He said, all right, if you can get it down here, I'm gonna call my dad. He's worked on it before. Lo and behold, we got it all fixed up and got it back out on the road for that trip. So yeah, just interesting things that you don't know when you're getting a rental. But what we learned about that experience is the person that rented it to us, he was incredible. He was extremely helpful. He had extra parts in the van and that's when we reversed to learn about the rental experience as well about what a great van owner can do for a trip as well. Awesome. It's so interesting because... My family has a group camping. My grandparents took a camper trip, I think it was a small motor home trip to Alaska in the 80s. And you hear all these stories of the breakdowns along the road to Alaska and how some little small place along the side of the road helped them out with certain things. And I hear this all the time in the school league community and other places where these trips present us with opportunities to maybe regain some hope in humanity or some reconnecting with kind people. I know my husband Eric and I have been on a motorcycle in Kansas and had a flat tire and we were way far away from our camper at the time because we were traveling in our Lance truck camper and some random person stopped and was like, come over here to my house and I'll help you out. And they drove us back to our camper to pick up our inner tube that we had for the motorcycle that was there with our prep gear and stuff. And it's these trips that provide these amazing moments where you can feel good about people again. And so I wonder if you took that away from your experience too. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's that kind of, I think in moments where things are going wrong, people kind of connect on a different level because it's the, I've been there. Especially with Wessies and camper vans. I have as well, you see one in a campground or something's going wrong and we all just seem to have. random spare parts that nobody else on planet Earth would have in their vehicles. So we've had it before where we just had an extra serpentine belt that was in our vehicle because we had lost one on one of our kind of random road trips. And we said, hey, this would be a good thing to have. So this person was absolutely shocked that we randomly had, you know, a 1990 serpentine belt. But I think it's those types of things. And, you know, we get them the serpentine belt, they find somebody and then they're able to continue their trip, which else that wouldn't, you know, it wouldn't be possible. So yeah, there's something fun and there's this connection about everybody that's trying to do this kind of travel and like, you know, I've been there, flat tire, like, yeah, I've been there. Let's help these guys out. Yeah, so awesome. These serendipitous moments of kindness that you run across. So from there, you mentioned you've kind of transitioned, you've got a couple of different camper vans now, and obviously you're helping other people, and I'm sure there was a huge period in between. So how did you gain more knowledge after that first trip in order to kind of upskill yourself for what you do now? Yeah, so I think in some ways I was just very lucky. I had gotten Yeti onto a platform called GoCam. When Go Camp was still this, I think at that time it was a three person company, three or four person company, started by this incredible woman named Debra Kane. And it was just with the goal of helping more people get outside and making camping easy. And I really gravitated towards that. So when I got my vehicle on there, it started out and I was doing well on there. And then shortly after that, much like we met, I saw a post on LinkedIn from Debra and said, Hey, We were just acquired by a larger company and we're hiring for all these different roles. You know, put your name in. So I said, well, I have experience in some of these areas. So I sent a note to her, got very lucky to get hired in that company. I was pretty sure I was one of the first 10 hires overall in the company. And then from there I was on the supply acquisition side. So my main role at the company was to find amazing vans and amazing van owners. and then connect them, bring them onto our platform and help them be successful in the rental market. From that role, it allowed me to be in, at this point, 500 plus different camper vans and RVs, learning everything that I can about them because I really needed to know them to help the owners be successful as well. So it just gave me a kind of unique position to have a really broad view of all of them versus just really understanding one specific area. So yeah, very lucky, very just right place, right time, I guess, right skill set. And it was incredible. I loved it. So, so from my own edification and for listeners, Go Camp, it's a platform where people who own camper vans can put their rig on sort of like an Airbnb, like a house sharing platform so they can rent out their rig. Yep. Exactly like that. It is. limited per area and market and state. The kind of goal is to help van owners in certain areas kind of maximize their revenue, but then also control what we call like quality control the van. So again, these vans tend to break down, there are things that go wrong. So we want to make sure that we're working with owners that have solutions for those that can fix those on the road that can continue trips. And then the right types of vehicles to it's. One of the big things for family trucksters is trying to promote more sleep four, seat four vehicles. There's just not a lot of them on the road that do that in a safe and comfortable way. So we would go out and find those types of vans in particular as well. That's so interesting. I guess it's never occurred to me before that people can turn their camper van into an investment rental, just like you can a house, a tiny house, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So amazing. So what kind of you're working with folks as they're maybe headed out on their first trip or maybe they took their first trip and realized that they don't know what they don't know. So what kind of problems are you helping people solve? It sounds like that family travel is one big one. Yep. Family travel. I think the idea and the start of family trucks was in that area of it's there's already things you need to know when you're learning this type of travel. There's even more that you need when you have children, especially small children. When you're thinking about, okay, how do we get the car seats in? How do we pack this? Where does the stroller go? Where does everybody sleep? You know, do we have enough space for all of our gear? All of those things. So I think it started with that idea of, okay, we're pretty good at this. You know, our family goes out a lot. We've made a lot of mistakes. We've learned a lot of things. How can we transfer that over? And then it quickly... kind of evolved into a lot of people reaching out and saying like, Hey, you know, it's just, my wife and I, or, Hey, I want to do a solo trip with my dog. I want to do, you know, kind of a sabbatical type of situation. Can you help me? You know, is there any advice you have? What should I look for? What type of vehicle? And then that also transferred into, okay, we took our first rental. We want to buy one. Now what? It's this, this huge overarching question of, okay, we're. We're ready to do something, but we have no idea where we want to go. so lately a lot of what I've been doing in family structures is a lot of just one -on-one time, trying to help people figure out exactly the right vehicle for them for what they're trying to do. Cause it is, it's definitely not one size fits all. People should really take some time to kind of dial in and think about it because it is an investment. And I think it needs to be looked at like an investment. So a lot of my time has been spent there. and then. I would say about, I think there's three or four people right now that I'm helping on the rental side, just to figure out how to better do the rental side, how to set themselves up, create checklists, how to make a really nice profile, how to talk to people, how to solve problems on the road, those types of things. Hey there, Laura here. On Less Housemore Moolah podcast, we hear so many stories of people living unconventional lives. Each of them is literally building their alt -American dream. Are you tired of putting your dreams on hold because of money? Then let's fix it. If you'd love to buck the system, quit your nine to five job and park yourself outside while you work towards financial security, but you can't seem to get past step one money. If you have a vision of an all American dream and are sick of making Pinterest boards, then let's make progress. I have a two part offering that's going to help you. 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We've been thinking about, this is off topic, we've been thinking about the Tesla challenge with charging and we're seeing like in our neighborhood where we are right now, people setting up a Tesla charger, you know, at their gate and. Yeah. You know, like that is, that's a big need. And so this world that we live in, it just creates all kinds of new needs in these, you know, changing times. And I love that you're helping people, you know, set themselves up for success for how do you deal with your, with your renter in your vehicle while they're on the road? Like, do you have to be prepared to go out and, you know, weld an axle or like, you know, like how do you deal with those challenges? And, you know, you know, do you. I mean, that's so interesting. Do people that rent their vans out, do they have like some sort of AAA coverage on them or how do they protect against those breakdowns and things? Yep. So most of your larger companies or your rental companies, you'll have roadside and insurance that are attached to the rental. So for instance, my rental that goes out today, it has both of those attached to it. But what those companies won't do is, hey, Eric, I want to charge my cell phone or, hey, the inverters acting weird or the solar is not charging correctly or water is not coming out of this spigot. So it's all of those kind of smaller details that the owner is responsible for to kind of help them through it. So I have in the van, I have different booklets. I have videos that I've made that they can download. Companies like go camp for instance have a whole downloadable guide. That's everything about the vehicle So how to drive it how to fix things in case they're? Out of cell service which a lot of times, you know, they are out of cell service They have a downloadable guide that they can click on they can get videos. So it's kind of just to help them through those But yeah, I've definitely had those Two and two in the morning calls, you know tire blowout family was on the way and you just you just kind of stay calm cool and If you planned ahead, everything's there so you can kind of walk them through it and continue on the trip. So that's the longest trip I've had. I feel like I'm part of their family now. It was a young family from Norway that had come out. I think it was 27 days total. It was a family of three. And I would just call them and text them every single day. Whether something was wrong or not, they would send me pictures. We would just stay in touch. So I was just, I was kind of on their journey with them. And then when little things came up, I was just there to help them fix it. So that's kind of part of the whole, the whole rental process itself. That's amazing. So let's talk, go back to folks that are thinking about buying their first rig, right? They are wanting to make some sort of transition, whether it's shorter, longer term. What are some of the key mistakes that you see? people make when they're, you know, kind of launching and I know I can be kind of impulsive sometimes and maybe don't always get all the details. So what are those key things that people need to watch out for? I'd say first and foremost is that cute doesn't always mean functional. And I talked to a lot of people about this because they're, I think we all get on Instagram and we see that band that is absolutely gorgeous. It has the hanging plants, it has all the nice things all over. I can tell you those are usually staged for photos and then as soon as they hit the road, all of that goes into a drawer or it is tied down because the van is, you know, it's going to move. So there's a lot of rattling, a lot of things. So first and foremost is you want to have the type of vehicle that has the look and the kind of lifestyle because you're going to be spending a lot of time in it. So you want it to be homey, you want it to be cozy, but you also have to think about the functionality of everything. So that's. That's kind of first and foremost, and this even down to the smallest things like what latches the drawers and how tight are they? And then where does all the things go? Can they be strapped down? Can they be pushed down? Because again, when you're going down the road and you've got a bunch of stuff and it's a big rattle trap, the experience is not as fun. So that's kind of first thing. And then I think secondly, I kind of go with seating and sleeping. and how you want to solve those two things. There's a myriad of different ways. First and foremost, if you are a family, you have to have the extra seating that has to be DOT approved. So it has to be able to hold a car seat. And then sometimes you have them that can move out of the way, they can flip up. There's a lot of options there. And sleeping wise, you want to have different places to sleep. So I have a family that's going out with a 13 year old son. and they got one of my vehicles because it has a giant pop top in it, a Colorado camper van pop top. So he can get away from them. That was one of the goals was, hey, we're going to go on this really long trip. I love you guys, but also I don't, you know, 13, I don't need to be sleeping with mom and dad and the queen size bed. So some of those things definitely to think about. And then the one that always comes up is, to bathroom or to not bathroom in the van. So. The shower to go to the bathroom in the van. Do you want it? Do you need it? do you want a full size one? Do you want just kind of a pop -up that conversation comes up a lot. So there's a lot of potty talk when you're, when you're doing van life stuff, which is, you know, it's a good thing if you're, especially if you're a young couple and you know, this is your adventure. you have to think about when nature calls, how close do you want to be to each other? And. And how do you want to handle those experiences? So those are kind of the bigger things that come up a lot. And then from there, it's just small details, size, comfortability, features that are needed. If they're going to be working out of it, you have to have a good power system. You've got to have probably Starlink and those kind of functional things usually come out after the cute side is gone. Yes. Yeah, that's so good. It never would have really occurred to me that potty talk would be in the top three. But that is truly the reality. And, you know, I'm sure that that is one of the most important things. And I've been to a van fest and like the different ways that bathrooms are put together is just full range. I mean, it's just all over the place. So it's very interesting that that is in the top three. And certainly the rattling is, you know, something that you would never necessarily think about unless you had done that trip. you know, kind of a foreign, you realize like how jarring it can be to, you know, have that noise. I'm going, I know the door on my truck doesn't even shut quite all the way and that drives me crazy. You know, so it's a, it's interesting. So let's switch gears and talk a little bit. I know mental health is something that's super important to you. So what were you and what do you think people that you're working with are looking for in these over the road adventures? I think there's this larger, kind of two different areas. One is just to get outside more. I think COVID definitely pushed this quite a bit more. That's when I would say the mobile travel or camper van travel boom really happened. And it was just this need to not feel cooped up and to get outside and to explore. We have some of the best national parks and they're absolutely incredible. Some of the best in the entire world. And I think people really want to do experience that. So I think first and foremost, just simply, we just need to get outside more. You know, I haven't done camping in so long and yada yada. and I think number two is people realize, okay, I do want to get outside, but I also want to be comfortable. And, I've heard so many times, like I'm sick of sleeping in the tent or on the ground or waking up cold or all of those things. So I think that was another portion to just being more comfortable. And then the biggest one is slowing down. I hear that. almost 100 % of the time when people are looking to do this type of trip is to just slow everything down to not do as much to, you know, not be rushing through the airport and doing all of those things and going through security and having to do this. It's that, you know, they can have a itinerary, they can have a plan, but they just want to do it on their own pace. They want to slow down. They want to just have their little dwelling that they can come in and out of. And then if they do need something, You know, the easiest thing is you just turn over a key and you just drive off, go get the thing and come right back. with kind of smaller vehicles like camper vans, truck campers, small RVs, you're able to do that really simply and easily, which takes a lot of anxiety away. So I know when we're out on our trips, when we get out of the city, it is very nice to just breathe and know that everything is just there for you. And it's just much simpler. I love that. So. When you're thinking about the work that you're doing, part of what you're doing is so logistical, but do you tie it back to creating some quality of life for folks? Yeah, absolutely. One of the things that I have, for instance, my renters that are coming in today, they'll be going to Joshua Tree. I have spent a ridiculous amount of time in Joshua Tree. I have a literal Joshua Tree right there tattooed on me. So a lot of what I'll be doing with them is you're sharing, not only just the hikes and the fun stuff, but kind of the little hidden treasures that people might know that are off the beaten path. And then just letting them know like, hey, if you can get to this spot around this time, then just hang out. Hang out, this is a great spot for a sunset. This is a spot where you can possibly see some sheep and things like that. And just try to talk to them about slowing down. Inevitably when they're doing the planning side or when they're about to leave, there's like this high anxiety. There's kind of the peak anxiety right as you're doing the walkthrough and you're showing them all of these things. And then my goal is always to make that as simple as possible. And then to just tell them, you do not need to know any of this. You do not need to remember this. I am a phone call. I have a text away. Relax. Like you're about to take this trip. The last thing you need to do is be stressing about it. Like you just relax, go really slow, you know, plan your trips out to where you give yourself a lot of extra time. don't rush this. So yeah, a lot of it's, there's a lot of just like urgency and people wanting to go when they first show up. And then by the time they actually turn the key over to leave, there's a very calm feeling. That's so good. So you and I are both veterans and we talked about this a little bit when we first connected about, you know, veterans and kind of their return to, you know, civilian life and. how often you know that involves going back to school. So share with us, you know, a little bit about the veteran angle and about GI Bill benefits and, you know, kind of tell the audience what you told me about this. Yeah, this is one of those areas that I'm trying to kind of delve more into, just having experience with transitioning out of the military. And I think there's this idea that you come into the military, And then no matter how long you do, you transition out and a lot of people just go right back to what they were doing before. They go right back home or they just go right back into the workforce. And they never really actually take this time that is much needed when you transition out of the military to just kind of, I don't want to say be a normal human being, but just to be a much calmer human being that does not wake up at 5 a and have all these stresses and all these things on you. So, one of the things that I'm looking into and. And hopefully partnering with some different builders and different rental companies are these either long -term rentals or these kind of cost -effective builds where a veteran can get out. And if they want to do their schooling, they want to do mobile schooling, or if they just want to get out, they've got savings and they want to spend a year on the road. They have that ability. They have the option to do that without having to build the van out from scratch, without having to kind of put a huge investment into it. It's something that I think is really important when they first get out to just take some time for themselves, travel the country, get to see it in a different way, get to kind of figure out their next steps. If they want to do schooling, there is hybrid models, there's fully online. So there is a BH benefit to that. So they might be able to cover the entire cost of the van and their housing while doing mobile travel as well. So that's definitely on my, my kind of to-do list right now on my radar that I'm consistently trying to put something together. I have a feeling that would also be very popular, very popular pitch to veterans. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. When I came out of the air force, I, I didn't immediately get into the GI bill. I definitely didn't take any time off. Like it was immediately like, I gotta go find a new career path. And I didn't have, you know, transitional skills because my job had been so, you know, technical and military related and gosh, it would have been great to like have a chance to figure out who I was out of uniform and see that life outside of uniform was going to be, you know, fun and freeing. Yeah. So I love that you're doing that work. So for folks that are listening who are wanting to take some time off and travel, or take a sabbatical or what have you, how do they reach you for advice? Yep, so on the website is the best way and that's familytrucksters .co. I have a, there's a contact form there and then there's just a calendar. So I put the calendar, it's wide open and you can just book a time whenever you want and I will just show up and talk to you. That is kind of the model. It's very simple right now. In the future, I have, I think it's about, five blog posts now that I'll be putting out there that are pretty long, long tail ones that just have a lot of information that's jam packed. So if you kind of want to do some pre-learning before grabbing a call, but the whole goal is just to be as approachable as I can. And then the business is set up right now, still working through the model a bit, but it's a kind of pay what you can consultancy or pay what you feel value for. I think that's a much better way to go about it versus just having these hard numbers. Cause there's sometimes people just need a conversation and they, you know, they don't need to fork over a bunch of money or they don't need to go to the dealership and get sold a vehicle right away. They, they need some prep work. So I've set it up to kind of just be as, as open as possible. And that's, that's how a lot of people have just been reaching out or referrals to. I know that you've sent over a couple of folks that just had some questions, you know, they're. looking to take a trip or they're thinking about maybe buying a van and that's where a great place where the conversation starts. Awesome. Well, Eric, thank you so much. I think, you know, what you're doing is so magical for folks so that they don't feel so overwhelmed with, you know, kind of launching off on this new lifestyle. So thanks for sharing all of that with us today. Yeah, I really appreciate it. This is a ton of fun. I love what you're doing. I think it's incredibly valuable for everybody. Awesome. 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